UA-RU-NATO | DISCUSSIONS | 7th Jan - 4th June '24 (2024)

Yingyang said:

I'm Australian so you know all to well your assumption is 100% correct. busted.

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Where did I say your Russian I said whatever government you subscribe to. There’s people all over the world that believe Russian propaganda.

Snowfall said:

There’s people all over the world that believe Russian propaganda.

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And it's not even good/believable propaganda if you have even the slightest objectivity.

Snowfall said:

Where did I say your Russian I said whatever government you subscribe to. There’s people all over the world that believe Russian propaganda.

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Funny that you assume I lean towards any propaganda. You obviously come to your conclusion as I don't follow what is expected i guess.

Yingyang said:

Judging by above conversations on this page you all sound fooled into believing nuclear war is on your side. These people are well and truly indoctrinated by democracy or whatever you may call it. The outcome is the same. Enjoy your work and the benefits you receive through hope, false beliefs and trust in others. MAD a truly deserving title clearly.

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I’ve offered suggestion I’ve asked for sources, for explanations and the discussion ends with snark and “what-ever”
You steadfastly refuse to address the discussion question “what is Russias culpability”
What is there responsibility in lowering the rhetoric
The repeated reply is it’s the west fault and when this goes nuclear it will all be the west fault. when your called on it your play the victim

OReid said:

I’ve offered suggestion I’ve asked for sources, for explanations and the discussion ends with snark and “what-ever”
You steadfastly refuse to address the discussion question “what is Russias culpability”
What is there responsibility in lowering the rhetoric
The repeated reply is it’s the west fault and when this goes nuclear it will all be the west fault. when your called on it your play the victim

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I was waiting for a hello by you .
Yes obviously history is your source and I don't enjoy tennis. The funny part is I'm required to show reasons for a peaceful settlement by people who obviously believe it is a one sided issue. Always they they they. Ok so they doesn't mean sh*t if we are no different. Since ww2 what countries have been involved in conflict the most globally? How did previous enemies become allies and allies current enemies. You shouldn't require sources . After all my statement is history not future.

Yingyang said:

I was waiting for a hello by you .
Yes obviously history is your source and I don't enjoy tennis. The funny part is I'm required to show reasons for a peaceful settlement by people who obviously believe it is a one sided issue. Always they they they. Ok so they doesn't mean sh*t if we are no different. Since ww2 what countries have been involved in conflict the most globally? How did previous enemies become allies and allies current enemies. You shouldn't require sources . After all my statement is history not future.

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As I said snark no substance

OReid said:

As I said snark no substance

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Yep if that is easier run with it.

Yingyang said:

Funny that you assume I lean towards any propaganda. You obviously come to your conclusion as I don't follow what is expected i guess.

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Saying you don’t lean towards propaganda is like saying 2+2=5.

Yingyang said:

Yep if that is easier run with it.

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Anyone can look at facts and pick and choose what suits them. You do i could. This would still equal opposing opinions should one side choose to try and understand while other has no room to move due to lack of interest. Compromise and the ability to give up something to gain something isn't always equated to material gain. Surely the idea of civilisation-family-freinds ,colleagues, teamwork and unity wasn't just designed for sole gains for a minority in those groups. By answering yes I understand your point. You can see things anyway you choose.
Democracy gives us the opportunity to choose a leader.
But should that leader decide to choose without majority vote we need not question their judgement? As RiffRaff says about politics, I think this could also be of similar relevance as far as ideology is concerned.

Yingyang said:

Anyone can look at facts and pick and choose what suits them. You do i could. This would still equal opposing opinions should one side choose to try and understand while other has no room to move due to lack of interest. Compromise and the ability to give up something to gain something isn't always equated to material gain. Surely the idea of civilisation-family-freinds ,colleagues, teamwork and unity wasn't just designed for sole gains for a minority in those groups. By answering yes I understand your point. You can see things anyway you choose.
Democracy gives us the opportunity to choose a leader.
But should that leader decide to choose without majority vote we need not question their judgement? As RiffRaff says about politics, I think this could also be of similar relevance as far as ideology is concerned.

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What is your opinion on the Gerasimov doctrine?

Snowfall said:

Saying you don’t lean towards propaganda is like saying 2+2=5.

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Wow never considered that .
Obviously picking sides is a requirement here in some peoples opinion. Maybe you should start a thread in a democratic way to clear up your grevience towards those who don't want to Play, Follow or Join. After all it is fair now isn't it. I actually believe the numbers would swing your favour as sad as that is. But feel free and admin with the director and deputy may well support it through fair vote. GOODLUCK.
After all nothing stays the same forever.

Peter Griffin said:

What is your opinion on the Gerasimov doctrine?

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An obvious example of the will to survive against agression.
From what I see it doesn't differ much to American policy. Unless your in denial about civilian targets or something.
You are aware India is not classified as an enemy of America but is a target due to population size . Oh no oops unverified claim but think about it. The idea of superiority after a nuclear war is surviving population numbers dictates the high possibility of next superior power. Personally I see China winning the population superiority leading to next controversy. Anyway I answered and my opinion is all I give.

Yingyang said:

Obviously picking sides is a requirement here in some peoples opinion.

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You’re in a discussions thread questioning why people are picking sides?

Snowfall said:

You’re in a discussions thread questioning why people are picking sides?

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You were the first in our conversation to assume this.

Yingyang said:

You were the first in our conversation to assume this.

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To assume what?

Snowfall said:

To assume what?

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I follow Russian propaganda.

Yingyang said:

I follow Russian propaganda.

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Yeah and? What does that have literally anything remotely to do with questioning why you’re complaining people have an opinion in a discussion thread.

Snowfall said:

Yeah and? What does that have literally anything remotely to do with questioning why you’re complaining people have an opinion in a discussion thread.

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Discussion mean someone has or must pick a side. No it doesn't.

Yingyang said:

Anyone can look at facts and pick and choose what suits them. You do i could. This would still equal opposing opinions should one side choose to try and understand while other has no room to move due to lack of interest. Compromise and the ability to give up something to gain something isn't always equated to material gain. Surely the idea of civilisation-family-freinds ,colleagues, teamwork and unity wasn't just designed for sole gains for a minority in those groups. By answering yes I understand your point. You can see things anyway you choose.
Democracy gives us the opportunity to choose a leader.
But should that leader decide to choose without majority vote we need not question their judgement? As RiffRaff says about politics, I think this could also be of similar relevance as far as ideology is concerned.

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So back to the issue at hand you maintain NATO should stand down or back off.
What exactly is it Russia should compromise on.

Yingyang said:

Discussion mean someone has or must pick a side. No it doesn't.

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The literal dictionary definition of discuss “
to talk about a subject with someone and telleach other your ideas or opinions:”