UA-RU-NATO | DISCUSSIONS | 7th Jan - 4th June '24 (2024)

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BorisBadenov said:

Meh...we would head to Canada after a period of time.

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Better be prepared to be a fur trapper because with that much governmental and economic disruption it would get pretty isolated
up there.

BorisBadenov said:

Meh...we would head to Canada after a period of time.

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Mexico is better for you or Cuba, Doninican Republic, or wow, Haiti

OReid said:

Ett

Better be prepared to be a fur trapper because with that much governmental and economic disruption it would get pretty isolated
up there.

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It was 300 years ago

DEFCON Warning System said:

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Russia has mobile launchers that the US can't find. They'll get off their nukes. Maybe not all of them, but enough.

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As @DarkNoon noted, Subs too. We will sink the sh*t out of them but the missiles (at least some) will get off. There is no realistic scenario AFAIK that doesn’t result in a crippling to crushing strike on the US.

Russia faces an even tougher level of destruction from the US, France, and the UK. Even Germany and The Netherlands may join in, tossing some “lend/lease” hate at Russia

OReid said:

Give Russia what ever it demands because they have the bomb then?
I dare say Russian leadership has overplayed the threat of striking nations that materially support Ukraine.
Is that the level of derangement they have fallen to. And is it as you maintain the only reasonable response to it would be to give in to there threats.
This was Russias war to start and it is Russias war to escalate or end.
Or are you legitimizing the principle that a nuclear power can do what ever they want?

In that case the US, France, and Britain all have nuclear weapons maybe Russia should leave Ukraine immediately or they might wake up one day and find out Moscow has been destroyed with multiple nuclear warheads.

How does that logic work when it’s reversed? I mean if it’s a legitimate argument to use to defend Russian it certainly legitimate one to use for the West.
Maybe it’s Russian leadership who’s become complacent and unaware to the danger they have brought upon their nation and people.

But that’s not how this work does it.

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This is exactly the problem thankyou for such fine examples as usual with showing absolute disregard to everything and everyone all because of ego. Not once is talks ,compromise, or anything else mentioned. JFK had the brains and since then every one else just looks and thinks obviously with similar attitudes since . Either another country is expected to tow the line or face the consequences. We created these situations and you can deny it as much as you like . But the so called enemies of today were decided decades ago and have been designed since. You ignore it , I won't. Ww2 both China and Russia assisted us and now the previous enemies are our allies. While our possible allies are now enemies due to growth and success basically ,so oh no we cannot have that or risk our egotistical global positioning by allowing a possibility of losing a opportunistic title. Yes I'm not expecting flowers and rainbows with unicorns enjoying both. But tunnel vision i certainly don't suffer from. The possibility of fixing and repairs due to lack of maintenance does exist. Obviously the throw away society has reached levels never expected.

Yingyang said:

This is exactly the problem thankyou for such fine examples as usual with showing absolute disregard to everything and everyone all because of ego. Not once is talks ,compromise, or anything else mentioned. JFK had the brains and since then every one else just looks and thinks obviously with similar attitudes since . Either another country is expected to toe the line or face the consequences. We created these situations and you can deny it as much as you like . But the so called enemies of today were decided decades ago and have been designed since. You ignore it , I won't. Ww2 both China and Russia assisted us and now the previous enemies are our allies. While our possible allies are now enemies due to growth and success basically ,so oh no we cannot have that or risk our egotistical global positioning by allowing a possibility of losing an opportunistic title. Yes I'm not expecting flowers and rainbows with unicorns enjoying both. But tunnel vision i certainly don't suffer from. The possibility of fixing and repairs due to lack of maintenance does exist. Obviously the throw away society has reached levels never expected.

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Those Russians sure respect all the treaties we’ve made with them, tell me again how’d the Budapest memorandum hold up? How’d Minsk 2 hold up? We get it you like Russia and China but tell me what actual compromises has Russia tried to make?

Yingyang said:

Judging by above conversations on this page you all sound fooled into believing nuclear war is on your side. These people are well and truly indoctrinated by democracy or whatever you may call it. The outcome is the same. Enjoy your work and the benefits you receive through hope, false beliefs and trust in others. MAD a truly deserving title clearly.

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We get it Chamberlain you’re okay with people changing the international order at all costs.

Yingyang said:

Judging by above conversations on this page you all sound fooled into believing nuclear war is on your side.

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Clearly you have not read a single thing. We have been saying even just a couple handful of cities go where screwed. Russia only has to pop off a few and RIP America.

Snowfall said:

We get it Chamberlain you’re okay with people changing the international order at all costs.

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The international order
You mean a set of rules created for benefit of some.
Just like ICC no one takes notice of either. And the countries that never took part?
Pick and choose after all that creates convenience obviously. Pointing fingers while not even agreeing to such but using it to cast shadow on others.

Yingyang said:

The international order
You mean a set of rules created for benefit of some.

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You mean the established world norms & order that has brought about the world's most longest lasting peace and prosperity in human history to the entire world?

The world norms & order that even Russia, China, Iran, and DPRK use and prosper from?

Snowfall said:

Those Russians sure respect all the treaties we’ve made with them, tell me again how’d the Budapest memorandum hold up? How’d Minsk 2 hold up? We get it you like Russia and China but tell me what actual compromises has Russia tried to make?

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Once again it is always their responsibility. Thankyou

Yingyang said:

The international order
You mean a set of rules created for benefit of some.
Just like ICC no one takes notice of either. And the countries that never took part?
Pick and choose after all that creates convenience obviously. Pointing fingers while not even agreeing to such but using it to cast shadow on others.

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Yeah cause keeping international borders the same and not attacking other countries because you’re greedy is such a bad thing. But please keep spewing Russian propaganda to justify a literal genocide but whatever helps you sleep at night.

Yingyang said:

Once again it is always their responsibility. Thankyou

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Well when it takes 2 sides to respect a treaty when one does and the other doesn’t yeah it kind of is Russias fault.

Snowfall said:

Yeah cause keeping international borders the same and not attacking other countries because you’re greedy is such a bad thing. But please keep spewing Russian propaganda to justify a literal genocide but whatever helps you sleep at night.

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Thankyou for your comments of unwilling misguided support. I appreciate it as it is a prime example of the exact points and position I'm addressing.

Snowfall said:

Well when it takes 2 sides to respect a treaty when one does and the other doesn’t yeah it kind of is Russias fault.

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You ignore the fact Ukraine did the same. You ignore the fact the west has previously, you ignore the fact of who creates the treaty you refer to. You and others like you will always be part of the process instead of adopting new ideas or old ones never given the true opportunities. Thankyou as you are just one prime example of human nature.

Yingyang said:

You ignore the fact Ukraine did the same. You ignore the fact the west has previously, you ignore the fact of who creates the treaty you refer to. You and others like you will always be part of the process instead of adopting new ideas or old ones never given the true opportunities. Thankyou as you are just one prime example of human nature.

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Yeah the difference is the west acted like that 40 years ago during the Cold War not actively doing it.

Yingyang said:

Thankyou for your comments of unwilling misguided support. I appreciate it as it is a prime example of the exact points and position I'm addressing.

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You literally haven’t made a single point. You first misinterpreted an entire hypothetical discussion as somehow wanting nuclear war and attack people in the west for not rolling over to China and Russia. Literally every comment you make on this form is a repetition of Russian propaganda claiming the west should negotiate and settle and all this crap without ever offering any sort of blame for Russia for starting the conflict. There’s no point in even trying to come to any sort of consensus with you because you’re so bought into the lies whatever government you subscribe to tells you. But again have fun supporting genocide and rolling over any time a country with nukes looks in your direction.

Snowfall said:

You literally haven’t made a single point. You first misinterpreted an entire hypothetical discussion as somehow wanting nuclear war and attack people in the west for not rolling over to China and Russia. Literally every comment you make on this form is a repetition of Russian propaganda claiming the west should negotiate and settle and all this crap without ever offering any sort of blame for Russia for starting the conflict. There’s no point in even trying to come to any sort of consensus with you because you’re so bought into the lies whatever government you subscribe to tells you. But again have fun supporting genocide and rolling over any time a country with nukes looks in your direction.

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I'm Australian so you know all to well your assumption is 100% correct. busted.