xxx wrote:
The crips and bloods have similiar gang structures to ELA chicanos. DONT YOU SEE YOUR PEOPLE COPY?
Just to put the Nail inthe Coffin, because im getting burnt out on this subject, lets break down the "Structure" of Chicano and Black Gangs in L.A and see if Blacks Copied, besides "Grouping up" i dont see "Whatcha Talking about Willis"!
Chicano Gangs have Generational Clicks e.i Peewees, Malditos, Diablos, Locos, Tinys, Winos etc.......
Example:
Eighteen Street (Gang)
Smiley Drive (Area)
-Lil Locos (click)
-Tiny Malditos (click)Blacks Gangs dont have that Structure, its simple your Gang Name and your Street/Block.
Example:
School Yard Crips
-17th StreetChicano Gangs structure inthe County Jail & Prison Are different
-They Squash Street Gang Beefs and click up with Enemies under the Sureno Structure.
Black Gangs in the County Jail & Prison Gang Bang against there Enemies from the Streets.
Chicano Gangs on the Streets Pay Taxes to a Prison Gang
Blacks on the Streets say fu-- You and Kiss My Ass, i need to feed my Kids and buy this Car with 21 in Rims, and put this Harley Davidson Bike Together.
Chicano Gangs respect their Drug Addict Herion Shooting Veteranos..
Blacks have no respect for their Smoked Out Gs.
Black Gangs have Street Alliances in they Structutre
examples:
-Rollin 0's, Neighborhoood Crips, Gangstas Moving, Compton Crip Riders, etc.....Chicano Gangs dont have Street Alliances.
Blakc Gangs have Hood Days
Example
March 10 is 3x 10, The 30's Hood day Celebration..
Chicano Gangs dont have Hood Days in they Structure.
Black Gangs were into Balling and being High Rollers..
Chicano Gangs are just now getting into the Flashy sh*t now.
I can go on and on......
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I came up in the Era when Black and Mexican Gang that shared Neighborhoods Function togther and look out for each other, this racial sh*t is the Pepi Generation.
i came up when Mexicans faught Mexicans, and Blacks faught Blacks, two different Lanes that didnt Cross, maybe bumped fromtime to time, but never crossed.
i came up when when Blacks belong to Mexican Gangs, and Mexicans belong to Black Gangs and it wasnt a Big Deal...
both sides pick up this and that from each other, and i can remember Mexicans living inSouth Central L.A and other Black Areas whole Swagger was a hybrid of Niiga/Vato, wasnt 100% Chicano Sterotype.
Anyways, thats a thing of the Past......
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I DONT KNOW ABOUT CALLING ALL MEXICAN GANG BANGING OGS HERION ADDICTS...........................the most famous murders committed in Mexico during the 90s were committed by Mexican Mafia members.The man who committed the worlds most famous murder of a catholic bishop was from the mexican mafia in LA. The 3 Most Powerful Cartel Members ever delivered to the USA were all connected to the Mexican Mafia from LA. Hector EL GUERO PALMA, the 2nd highest leader in the Gulf Cartel wife and child was killed by a man hired by POPEYE ARAUZO a mexican mafia member still at large. The biggest exchange of Cartel Bosses in Mexicos Drug history had along with trade a high ranking Mexican Mafia member.The organization ,they were a part of controlled ALL drug shipments into the mid 2000s, their take was estimated at 2 billion dollars a year.
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4 extradited drug cartel leaders appear in Houston court
By Onell R. Soto
STAFF WRITER
January 23, 2007
Four drug cartel leaders extradited this weekend from Mexico and facing charges in San Diego federal court appeared in a Houston courtroom yesterday under high security.
They were among 15 people turned over by Mexican officials late Friday and early Saturday in a move that authorities said signals unprecedented cooperation in the fight against drug traffickers.
“Now, did we get all of Mexico's major drug traffickers? No, not yet. But this past weekend, the U.S. and Mexico have taken a tremendous leap forward,” said Karen Tandy, head of the Drug Enforcement Administration.
The four are expected to appear in San Diego federal court within weeks. Officials refused to give details about their transfer here for security reasons.
Two are brothers accused of leading day-to-day operations for the Arellano Félix cartel. Authorities said the other two are an “enforcer” for the criminal organization who was a link to Southern California street gangs and a former member who then led a rival cartel.
Tandy said the greatest coup was the extradition of Osiel Cárdenas, a former police officer accused of running the Gulf Cartel, and of having corrupted specially trained Mexican federal officers.
“For the past eight years, Osiel Cárdenas Guillen commanded one of the most brutal and powerful drug cartels in the world,” she said. “For the last four of those years, he did it from within a Mexican prison outside of Mexico City.”
She lauded the extradition of Ismael and Gilberto Higuera Guerrero, indicted in 2003 in San Diego federal court. “Ismael was the Arellano Félix organization, or the Tijuana cartel's, chief of operations. Gilberto supervised operations in neighboring Mexicali.”
As important, drug trafficking experts said, is Hector Palma Salazar, indicted in San Diego in 1995 and accused of conspiring to distribute more than a ton of cocaine.
A former member of the Arellano organization, he joined with Joaquín Guzmán Loera and ran the rival Sinaloa cartel.
Eduardo Medina Mora, Mexico's attorney general, has said the cartel leaders – Cárdenas, Palma and the Higuera brothers – were extradited to stop their communications from behind bars and to reduce risks of violence and escape, not because of U.S. pressure. The aim was to break “physical and geographical” contact with their gangs while they were in Mexican prisons.
Deputy U.S. Attorney General Paul McNulty said he was confident the U.S. prison system would be able to better control such communication.
“We have a long record of not having those kinds of problems occur within the Federal Bureau of Prisons,” he said, including monitoring telephone calls, letters and visits.
One of those extradited, José Albert Márquez, is accused of being a leader in the Mexican Mafia prison gang, acting as a link to the Arellano Félix cartel.
The prison gang is accused of masterminding killings from inside prison and controlling drug distribution through threats and extortion using street gangs.
Also yesterday, the federal judge overseeing the possible death-penalty trial of accused kingpin Francisco Javier Arellano Félix sharply disagreed with prosecutors and defense lawyers over when a jury would hear the case. Arellano is accused of racketeering and conspiracy.
The lawyers told U.S. District Judge Larry Alan Burns they could be ready to take the case to trial in June 2008. Burns insists it can begin this year.
Although Arellano may face the death penalty since he was captured by U.S. officials, the group's top lieutenants won't because of terms of their extraditions from Mexico, where there is no death penalty.
Mexican President Felipe Calderón pledged yesterday to wage a permanent war on organized crime.
In addition to stepped-up extraditions, Calderón sent federal troops to patrol cities where police corruption is suspected, including Tijuana, where municipal officers were stripped of their weapons Jan. 4.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Onell Soto: (619) 293-1280; onell.soto@uniontrib.com
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